2009年3月21日 星期六

The Situation of International Students’ Taking Courses In Taiwan



2009/03/21 Taiwan by Lin

The same interviewees in the news “Taiwanese universities attract international students” are again interviewed of their further situations of taking courses in Taiwan, including the percentage of courses lectured in Chinese, in English, and in half-Chinese half-English they take, the situation of their being able to understand the classes or not, the advantages and the disadvantages of the three types of classes, and the situations of taking courses in other universities.

The average percentage of the courses they take is 17% in Chinese, 76.13% in English, 6.79% in half-Chinese half-English. The student from Haiti is not included in this statistics because she didn’t take any courses for the reason that there are no required courses for her program. The student from Guatemala has a program in which all courses are lectured in English. Three of them didn’t take any Chinese courses for not being able to understand Chinese.

From the opinions of taking Chinese courses are the advantage of improving Chinese, and the disadvantage of not being able to understand or the hardness of following the point of the classes. Among them are two exceptions: One is the Chinese French, who has some basic ability of Chinese and said the traditional characters is the challenge for her. The other is one French girl, who takes Chinese classes specially designed for foreign students, in which the teachers are more patient and explain more words.

For courses lectured in half-Chinese half-English, six of them said they can understand the classes because teachers repeat in English what they said in Chinese. Among the six students, some said they still prefer courses lectured in English, some said it’s great experiences because it helps them a lot in learning Chinese and English is useful to explain Chinese terms. The other two students said they can’t understand the classes fully because teachers lecture in Chinese and just slide in English and local students answer questions in Chinese.

Six of the students said the courses lectured in English are enough for them to take to meet their graduation requirements. Among the students, one student from USA said he can discuss with his professor to have their classes all in English. Another one said they are enough if you don’t take courses related to your field into consideration, otherwise it may not be enough. The other students said they are not enough. Among them the student from Guatemala said his program of English courses are shortened and the new opened classes are not related to the classes closed, which is a hole unresolved. The other students’ solutions are to take other courses lectured in English, take the courses and study individually by using English textbooks, and take courses in other universities.

Two of them have the experiences of taking courses in other universities. They said the convenience is that the courses are lectured in English completely, and the inconveniences are the waste of time and money for transportation, the waste of time to wait for classes to start after arrived there, which sometimes takes one to three hours, and the troubles to adapt new environments with a lot of language gap.

Overall, the situations of international students’ taking courses in Taiwan are complicated and various from different cases. We can see some good sides made for international students, such as the special design of courses lecture in English and in half-Chinese half-English. And also some issues that took place, such as the gap between languages and the inconveniences of not enough courses lectured in English. Thus, the Government and the universities in Taiwan may have to create more solutions to make the educational system for international students more perfect.

1 則留言:

  1. [0:13] Alina Roxley: http://linchiehpeng.blogspot.com/
    [0:14] Alina Roxley: i took the opinions from the same interviewees last time
    [0:14] Alina Roxley: about the further questions about courses
    [0:14] alicealice Zepp: I am reading it : )
    [0:15] Alina Roxley: the first paragraph tells the main idea of the whole news
    [0:15] Alina Roxley: the second is about the percentage of courses in different languages the students take
    [0:16] Alina Roxley: the third is about the advantages and disadvantages the students have from the courses lectured in chinese
    [0:17] Alina Roxley: the fourth is the advantages and disadvantages the students have from the courses lectured in half chinese half eng
    [0:18] Brooke Yven: Btw, what am I going to do? Picking out grammatical problems?
    [0:18] Alina Roxley: the fifth is their opinions of if the courses lectured in eng is enough for their graduation credits
    [0:19] Brooke Yven: Teacher didn't mention about the work of editor...?
    [0:19] Brooke Yven: orz
    [0:19] Alina Roxley: in the first 20 mins just the writer ha s to tell the story and the reviewer asks qs
    [0:20] Alina Roxley: 10-minutes for recommending revisions.
    --Editors will evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the news piece and the relative importance of the issues raised by the reviewers.
    --Organizers will lead the review team by keeping discussion on schedule and post the chat transcript related to the discussion of the discussed news.
    [0:20] Brooke Yven: Ohhhh
    [0:20] Brooke Yven: I found it.
    [0:20] alicealice Zepp: @_@
    [0:20] Alina Roxley: the sixth is the situation of the students who take courses in other universities]
    [0:21] alicealice Zepp: HOw many international students you interviewed?
    [0:21] Alina Roxley: the last paragraph is the conclusion
    [0:21] Alina Roxley: 10
    [0:21] alicealice Zepp: Because at each example you mentioned some students
    [0:21] Alina Roxley: the same as those in last news i wrote
    [0:22] alicealice Zepp: But I get a little confused about it XD
    [0:22] Alina Roxley: because i tell the exceptions previously i think
    [0:22] Alina Roxley: for special reasons some students can't answer all qs
    [0:23] alicealice Zepp: I see
    [0:23] Alina Roxley: The student from Haiti is not included in this statistics because she didn’t take any courses for the reason that there are no required courses for her program.
    [0:23] alicealice Zepp: Yes
    [0:23] Alina Roxley: The student from Guatemala has a program in which all courses are lectured in English.
    [0:23] alicealice Zepp: So why do you mention her?
    [0:24] alicealice Zepp: XDDDDDD
    [0:24] Alina Roxley: so he can't aanswer qs about courses lecctured in chinese or half chinnese half eng
    [0:24] Alina Roxley: The average percentage of the courses they take is 17% in Chinese, 76.13% in English, 6.79% in half-Chinese half-English. The student from Haiti is not included in this statistics because she didn’t take any courses for the reason that there are no required courses for her program.
    [0:24] Alina Roxley: i think i should tell that she isn't included in the statistics right?
    [0:25] alicealice Zepp: Yes~~~
    [0:25] Heather Alenquer: tou can do that
    [0:25] Heather Alenquer: you
    [0:25] Alina Roxley: so the statistics r just for those 9 students
    [0:25] alicealice Zepp: Um
    [0:25] alicealice Zepp: Your point is very clear : )
    [0:26] alicealice Zepp: It makes readers understand what you want to discuss : )
    [0:26] Heather Alenquer: yes
    [0:26] Alina Roxley: thank u:)
    [0:26] Heather Alenquer: i think it is good
    [0:27] Alina Roxley: thanx ^^
    [0:27] Heather Alenquer: so your point is to tell the room to improve the university courses?
    [0:27] Alina Roxley: anywhere u don't understand?
    [0:27] alicealice Zepp: And perhaps you can mention those students s departments : )
    [0:27] Alina Roxley: ya the situation and the space to improve
    [0:28] alicealice Zepp: It can let us see more about thier situations : )
    [0:28] Heather Alenquer: um
    [0:28] Alina Roxley: ok i will think
    [0:29] Alina Roxley: but what if their department is not so related to the point
    [0:30] Heather Alenquer: why do you mention that they take courses in other university?
    [0:30] alicealice Zepp: Well, I just think that maybe different departments may use different way to teach...: )
    [0:30] alicealice Zepp: So I will like to know
    [0:30] Heather Alenquer: i see :)
    [0:31] Alina Roxley: because they think the courses lectured in eng in NCU is not enough for their required graduation credits
    [0:31] Heather Alenquer: oh that's the point
    [0:31] alicealice Zepp: YA
    [0:32] alicealice Zepp: maybe it is problem of ncu XDDDDDDD
    [0:32] Alina Roxley: lol
    [0:32] Heather Alenquer: ya i thought that
    [0:32] Alina Roxley: so r we still in the first part of the discussion
    [0:33] Brooke Yven: Excuse me, Alice. Did you mean that the departments these students are in related to the course teaching methods?
    [0:33] Alina Roxley: is the organizer keeping the chedule
    [0:33] Alina Roxley: schedule
    [0:34] alicealice Zepp: I guess
    [0:34] Heather Alenquer: well i just ask what i want to know
    [0:34] Heather Alenquer: is thier a standard schedule?
    [0:34] Brooke Yven: Sorry, I can't get your point so far...
    [0:34] Alina Roxley: ya 20 mins for the first part
    [0:35] Alina Roxley: 10 mins for the second
    [0:35] Alina Roxley: because the text should be saved abd showed
    [0:35] Alina Roxley: Organizers will lead the review team by keeping discussion on schedule and post the chat transcript related to the discussion of the discussed news.
    [0:35] Brooke Yven: Would you explain the relationship between the departments and the courses they are taking?
    [0:36] Alina Roxley: it seems we r one the second part
    [0:36] alicealice Zepp: I have not idea about it so i expect to see it in the article
    [0:37] Alina Roxley: ya i don't see thes trong connection between the departments they r from and the courses so far
    [0:37] Brooke Yven: Me either...
    [0:37] Alina Roxley: but i will think about it
    [0:37] Alina Roxley: i will read the questionnaire again later
    [0:38] alicealice Zepp: OK : )
    [0:38] Alina Roxley: to see the relation
    [0:38] Alina Roxley: any more qs?
    [0:39] Heather Alenquer: sorry i cannot see either, i think no
    [0:39] Brooke Yven: So you meant that if Lin told you which departments they are in, you may find out some other informations why they have difficulties taking enough courses credits?
    [0:39] alicealice Zepp: At first I want to know what subjects they were studing
    [0:40] Heather Alenquer: does that matter?
    [0:40] alicealice Zepp: I just want to know XDrz
    [0:40] alicealice Zepp: It doesnt matter
    [0:41] Heather Alenquer: oh maybe it does i am not sure
    [0:41] Heather Alenquer: ok then sall we continue?
    [0:42] Alina Roxley: i think the main point of the news is about the courses lectured in different ways
    [0:42] Alina Roxley: the three ways i mention in the news
    [0:42] Alina Roxley: abd their understandings of the three teaching ways of the courses
    [0:43] alicealice Zepp: I see
    [0:43] Brooke Yven: Well, if it's time for the second part, is it my turn to speak ^^"?
    [0:43] Alina Roxley: so i think maybe it doesn't matter what deapartments they r from
    [0:43] Brooke Yven: I just want to make sure ...orz
    [0:43] alicealice Zepp: OK~~~ : )
    [0:43] Alina Roxley: ok brooke speaks :)
    [0:44] Heather Alenquer: ok
    [0:45] Brooke Yven: Well, so it seems that I have to talk about the opinions given by reviewer and the importance of her opinions?
    [0:45] Alina Roxley: ya
    [0:45] Brooke Yven: Ok. I see.
    [0:45] Alina Roxley: and u think what parts should be revised
    [0:46] Alina Roxley: -Editors will evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the news piece and the relative importance of the issues raised by the reviewers.
    [0:46] Brooke Yven: So far the main advice given by reviewer is that writer should add the departments these students are in.
    [0:47] Alina Roxley: ya it seems so
    [0:48] Brooke Yven: Well, basically, this news is about the situation foreigner students taking courses in NCU and other universities.
    [0:49] Alina Roxley: ya their taking courses in other universities is one of the solutions they have when the courses in eng r not enough
    [0:49] Brooke Yven: And it focus on the difficulty in language barriers when they are taking these courses.
    [0:51] Brooke Yven: So, I think the most reason for this is the languages they speak, which is due to the original countries they are in instead of the departments they are belong to.
    [0:51] alicealice Zepp: OK : )
    [0:52] Brooke Yven: If the departments they are in affecdts on this situation, it means they would have no difficulty in learning these lessons by any languages.
    [0:52] Brooke Yven: However,
    [0:53] Heather Alenquer: excuse me , is it that i have post the chat transcript related to the discussion afterclass?
    [0:53] alicealice Zepp: @_@
    [0:53] Heather Alenquer: or later?
    [0:54] Alina Roxley: 2. Organizers should post chat transcripts and a short evaluative and constructive report reflecting the reviewer's and the editor's opinions about for the writer on his/her blog postings before Friday.
    [0:54] Brooke Yven: being a study-report news, Lin does need to tell all the relative datas and statistics readers should be able to know. :-)
    [0:54] Heather Alenquer: ok
    [0:55] alicealice Zepp: But we take different roles at each articles
    [0:55] Brooke Yven: Heather may ask Alice if she was in charge last week.
    [0:55] alicealice Zepp: ????
    [0:55] Brooke Yven: Who did the organizing work last week?
    [0:55] Brooke Yven: Alice?
    [0:55] Heather Alenquer: ya i have the same question as alice's
    [0:56] alicealice Zepp: Heather and I
    [0:56] alicealice Zepp: We post the discussion and headline
    [0:56] Brooke Yven: So let's take Alice as representative for last week since Heather is doing this week@@"
    [0:57] Alina Roxley: i tihnk everyone takes turns to be the organizer and post the transcripts
    [0:57] alicealice Zepp: but the professor deleted the discussion
    [0:57] alicealice Zepp: And we post comments to every blog
    [0:57] alicealice Zepp: ~~~
    [0:57] Heather Alenquer: ok i think we should continue our discussion
    [0:58] Alina Roxley: what discussion?
    [0:58] Heather Alenquer: the next writer
    [0:58] Alina Roxley: volunteer?
    [0:58] Brooke Yven: If you are the organizer at the run, all you have to do is to keep discussion on schedule and copy the writer's, the reviewer's, and the editor's dialogue. After class, you will post ON THE WRITER'S BLOG (1) the dialogue and (2) your summary of the reviewer and the editor's SUGGESTED REVISIONS
    [0:59] Alina Roxley: ya that's clear
    [0:59] Heather Alenquer: ok thax :)
    [0:59] Alina Roxley: everyone would have the turn do to that
    [0:59] Brooke Yven: You're welcome.: )
    [0:59] Brooke Yven: Um.
    [1:00] Alina Roxley: wit
    [1:00] alicealice Zepp: http://classalice.blogspot.com/
    [1:00] Brooke Yven: wit? wait?
    [1:00] Alina Roxley: so the editor doesn't have opinions about what parts i should strengthen or weaken
    [1:00] Alina Roxley: to make the point more effective?
    [1:01] Heather Alenquer: maybe we can simply email or MSN that
    [1:01] Alina Roxley: Brooke Yven: being a study-report news, Lin does need to tell all the relative datas and statistics readers should be able to know. :-)
    [1:01] Alina Roxley: and does it mean i should write the departments they r from?
    [1:02] Brooke Yven: Well, it is necessary for writer to give as more information as he/she can for justice and objectification.
    [1:02] Alina Roxley: ok
    [1:02] Alina Roxley: i understand :)
    [1:02] Alina Roxley: so it's the only thing i should revise?
    [1:03] Heather Alenquer: alice's i take the revewier
    [1:03] alicealice Zepp: OK
    [1:03] Heather Alenquer: reviewer
    [1:03] Brooke Yven: Well, if your want to make people comprehensively understand their situation, you do.
    [1:04] Brooke Yven: if you think these are enough, then you can skip this.
    [1:04] Alina Roxley: ok thanx :)



    Your article is telling the situation of international students taking courses in Taiwan. The reviewer’s suggestion is that to tell readers the Guatemala’s student is not included in this statistic so that it can keep readers from being confused. Secondly, the reviewer and the editor suggest that you can add the departments those students are in, because some readers may think it has connection to taking courses.

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